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===== [Haz vs [[Destiny]] - FEBRUARY 23RD, 2021] ===== | ===== [Haz vs [[Destiny]] - FEBRUARY 23RD, 2021] ===== | ||
Haz continued debating anyone who was willing to challenge him from any point of view, and of any level of notoriety. However, he focused mainly on leftists because they were the ones claiming to be "progressives", claiming to be "left-wing", claiming to be "Communists". These redlibs, as well as [[Anarchism|anarchists]] and terminally online liberals, were claiming the nom de guerre of "the real revolutionaries", while being unlearned, conceited, smug, undisciplined, dogmatic, one-sided, spiteful, and all other kinds of poor "revolutionaries" | |||
Haz continued debating anyone who was willing to challenge him from any point of view, and of any level of notoriety. However, he focused mainly on leftists because they were the ones claiming to be "progressives", claiming to be "left-wing", claiming to be "Communists". These redlibs, as well as [[Anarchism|anarchists]] and terminally online liberals, were claiming the nom de guerre of "the real revolutionaries", while being unlearned, conceited, smug, undisciplined, dogmatic, one-sided, spiteful, and all other kinds of poor "revolutionaries." | |||
===== [Haz vs [[Socialism Done Left]] - FEBRUARY 24TH, 2021] ===== | ===== [Haz vs [[Socialism Done Left]] - FEBRUARY 24TH, 2021] ===== | ||
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===== [Haz vs Destiny III - APRIL 28TH, 2021] ===== | ===== [Haz vs Destiny III - APRIL 28TH, 2021] ===== | ||
In June 2021, Black Lenin started clipping Infrared stream highlights and posting them to YouTube. He joined Papi Chulo, who had been clipping streams and uploading them since early 2021. | In June 2021, Black Lenin started clipping Infrared stream highlights and posting them to YouTube. He joined Papi Chulo, who had been clipping streams and uploading them since early 2021. In April 2022, BeyondLiberalism began clipping and uploading Infrared streams and by 2023, MiG and others would also help create YouTube videos of stream highlights. These channels also produced meme videos of Haz and Infrared. Combined, they accrued hundreds of thousands of views. | ||
===== [Haz vs [[Zoran Zoltaneous]] - JUNE 22ND, 2021] ===== | ===== [Haz vs [[Zoran Zoltaneous]] - JUNE 22ND, 2021] ===== | ||
===== [<nowiki/>[[Jackson Hinkle]] vs [[Vaush]] - JULY 10TH, 2021] ===== | ===== [<nowiki/>[[Jackson Hinkle]] vs [[Vaush]] - JULY 10TH, 2021] ===== | ||
On July 17th, | On July 17th, 2021, Haz's debate with [[Canzuck]] was turned into an animation by YouTuber wow_mao, garnering millions of views. This video introduced thousands of people to Infrared and Haz al-Din. This led to more opportunities for Haz to debate prominent leftists and other online personalities. | ||
Once the wow_mao video blew up in July of 2021, Haz gained enough clout to really establish his presence on Twitch. During this period, Haz collaborated with [[Logo Daedalus]], [[KantBot]], and [[EdBerg]], all of whom were highly influential for Infrared (especially Logo) and associated with an alternative political twitter discourse circa 2015, known as "[[frogtwitter]]"; [[Jon Zherka]] also associated with Haz, inviting Haz onto his stream multiple times; and CPI founder Caleb Maupin became an ally against Breadtubers who were now attacking Infrared. Haz held Infrarumbles (groups debate nights) where he met and featured [[Jackson Hinkle]], who eventually gained enough clout (between debating on Twitch, his interviews with [[Jimmy Dore]] and others, and his reporting on the false flag chemical attack in Syria) to debate the milquetoast Democrat whiner [[Sam Seder]] in January 2022, who conceded the debate to Jackson. | Once the wow_mao video blew up in July of 2021, Haz gained enough clout to really establish his presence on Twitch. During this period, Haz collaborated with [[Logo Daedalus]], [[KantBot]], and [[EdBerg]], all of whom were highly influential for Infrared (especially Logo) and associated with an alternative political twitter discourse circa 2015, known as "[[frogtwitter]]"; [[Jon Zherka]] also associated with Haz, inviting Haz onto his stream multiple times; and CPI founder Caleb Maupin became an ally against Breadtubers who were now attacking Infrared. Haz held Infrarumbles (groups debate nights) where he met and featured [[Jackson Hinkle]], who eventually gained enough clout (between debating on Twitch, his interviews with [[Jimmy Dore]] and others, and his reporting on the false flag chemical attack in Syria) to debate the milquetoast Democrat whiner [[Sam Seder]] in January 2022, who conceded the debate to Jackson. | ||
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During the same period came the war between East Asians and "Abrahamics" in the Discord server. The "Hyper-War" was a short period where East Asians and East Asian diaspora struggled against the "Abrahamic" members of the server. It was started by an "Abrahamic" bragging about the amount of believers in God in China, which led to an explosive reaction by a member of the discord, Korean Bolshevik. It was all downhill from there. The war was mainly about the East Asians going on long rants/lectures about respecting East Asian [[sovereignty]] and emphasizing the different civilizational reality of their region. They went on about how East Asia was more "atheistic" or even "pagan" in the Abrahamic sense of the words. It always seemed to get worse as these conversations went on with many sides weighing in on the conflicts. Eventually, when one of the main propagators left the server, the wars ended, putting to bed another unfortunate chapter of IGG. | During the same period came the war between East Asians and "Abrahamics" in the Discord server. The "Hyper-War" was a short period where East Asians and East Asian diaspora struggled against the "Abrahamic" members of the server. It was started by an "Abrahamic" bragging about the amount of believers in God in China, which led to an explosive reaction by a member of the discord, Korean Bolshevik. It was all downhill from there. The war was mainly about the East Asians going on long rants/lectures about respecting East Asian [[sovereignty]] and emphasizing the different civilizational reality of their region. They went on about how East Asia was more "atheistic" or even "pagan" in the Abrahamic sense of the words. It always seemed to get worse as these conversations went on with many sides weighing in on the conflicts. Eventually, when one of the main propagators left the server, the wars ended, putting to bed another unfortunate chapter of IGG. | ||
===== [Haz vs [[Asatar Bair]] - MAY 14TH, 2022===== | |||
===== [Haz and Jackson vs Destiny and [[AdamSomething]] - JUNE 6TH, 2022] ===== | ===== [Haz and Jackson vs Destiny and [[AdamSomething]] - JUNE 6TH, 2022] ===== | ||
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Haz formally dismissed the remaining PatSocDems in his scathing article "On the PatSoc Split" from July 19th, 2022; analyzing the adjacent historic development of the [[Stakhanovites]] (the industrial working class supported by Stalin) and the [[vydvizhentsy]] (professional, bureaucratic, revisionist elite class) of the [[Soviet Union]], and addressing both the essence and substantive arguments of the PatSocDems exhaustively. | Haz formally dismissed the remaining PatSocDems in his scathing article "On the PatSoc Split" from July 19th, 2022; analyzing the adjacent historic development of the [[Stakhanovites]] (the industrial working class supported by Stalin) and the [[vydvizhentsy]] (professional, bureaucratic, revisionist elite class) of the [[Soviet Union]], and addressing both the essence and substantive arguments of the PatSocDems exhaustively. | ||
Some of these PatSocDems were affiliated with parties, such as Andrew Saturn, who was affiliated with the [[Socialist Party of America]] and the [[Green Party]]. Some of them, like Saturn, seethed at their obliteration at the hands of Infrared and Haz Al-Din. Saturn, a man with children, spent months on Twitter lying about Infrared and coping, even going so far as to attempt to dox Haz, reveal his real name and where he lives. Instead, Andrew harassed a random family from Dearbourne, convinced that Haz was actually some normal guy named Adam Tahir. | Some of these PatSocDems were affiliated with parties, such as Andrew Saturn, who was affiliated with the [[Socialist Party of America]] and the [[Green Party]]. Some of them, like Saturn, seethed at their obliteration at the hands of Infrared and Haz Al-Din. Saturn, a man with children, spent months on Twitter lying about Infrared and coping, even going so far as to attempt to dox Haz, reveal his real name and where he lives. Instead, Andrew harassed a random family from Dearbourne, convinced that Haz was actually some normal guy named Adam Tahir. He proceeded to harass and leak this Tahir guy's address, insisting he was Haz. | ||
Andrew Saturn was not the only PatSocDem who contracted Infrared Derangement Syndrome. Johnny Socialism became possibly more obsessed than Saturn. Johnny spent the next two years (at least) vowing to destroy Infrared and the Khan. He regularly posted about IGG and even specific members from behind a block, claiming that Jackson Hinkle was a [[Central Intelligence Agency|CIA]] agent propagandist and that IGG was a fascist psyop against "true" Communism (the [[Open Society|open society]]). Unfortunately, the subsect of pan-leftists who believed this dwindled evermore, and the equation of real socialist patriots like Infrared with national socialism was no longer viable for them. | Andrew Saturn was not the only PatSocDem who contracted Infrared Derangement Syndrome. Johnny Socialism became possibly more obsessed than Saturn. Johnny spent the next two years (at least) vowing to destroy Infrared and the Khan. He regularly posted about IGG and even specific members from behind a block, claiming that Jackson Hinkle was a [[Central Intelligence Agency|CIA]] agent propagandist and that IGG was a fascist psyop against "true" Communism (the [[Open Society|open society]]). Unfortunately, the subsect of pan-leftists who believed this dwindled evermore, and the equation of real socialist patriots like Infrared with national socialism was no longer viable for them. | ||
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===== [Haz vs [[Drew Pavlou]] - JANUARY 12TH, 2023] ===== | ===== [Haz vs [[Drew Pavlou]] - JANUARY 12TH, 2023] ===== | ||
Also in January of 2023 VenturCommunist, aka Jacob Bellone, contracted Infrared Derangement Syndrome. He began nonstop tweeting at Infrared and it's allies, to the point where, as of January 2024, he directly tweeted at or about Infrared/ACP/Midwestern Marx and their members 400+ times (not counting replies in which he debated members, likely totalling more than 2,000 tweets over 2 years). Jacob would later be doxxed, his name, face, home address, and job revealed. He refuses to debate anyone except through tweets, and is best described as a [[Trotskyism|Trotskyite]]. | Also in January of 2023 VenturCommunist, aka Ruth (real name Jacob Bellone), contracted Infrared Derangement Syndrome. He began nonstop tweeting at Infrared and it's allies, to the point where, as of January 2024, he directly tweeted at or about Infrared/ACP/Midwestern Marx and their members 400+ times (not counting replies in which he debated members, likely totalling more than 2,000 tweets over 2 years). Jacob would later be doxxed, his name, face, home address, and job revealed. He refuses to debate anyone except through tweets, and is best described as a [[Trotskyism|Trotskyite]] and a narcissist. | ||
===== [Haz vs [[President Sunday]] (Vaush moderating) - MARCH 10TH, 2023] ===== | ===== [Haz vs [[President Sunday]] (Vaush moderating) - MARCH 10TH, 2023] ===== | ||
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In the leadup to the debate between Haz, Trevor Loudon, and Tim Pool, someone from Infrared nearly sabotaged the opportunity for Haz to go on Timcast by being undisciplined and unwise in an X space. VoidBourn is a well-known and well-intentioned member of Infrared who had major aesthetic appeal and potential to be a major IGG influencer, but this incident traumatized him. He deleted his X and Discord accounts, only to be seen again in December of 2024. This was extremely unfortunate, but served to usher in a period of reflection in which Toplop and other showrunners addressed people representing Infrared and still being unprofessional and undisciplined, to the point where it had nearly hindered a major opportunity for Haz to reach wider audiences. | In the leadup to the debate between Haz, Trevor Loudon, and Tim Pool, someone from Infrared nearly sabotaged the opportunity for Haz to go on Timcast by being undisciplined and unwise in an X space. VoidBourn is a well-known and well-intentioned member of Infrared who had major aesthetic appeal and potential to be a major IGG influencer, but this incident traumatized him. He deleted his X and Discord accounts, only to be seen again in December of 2024. This was extremely unfortunate, but served to usher in a period of reflection in which Toplop and other showrunners addressed people representing Infrared and still being unprofessional and undisciplined, to the point where it had nearly hindered a major opportunity for Haz to reach wider audiences. | ||
This incident led Infrared lurker Aeon Animus to become highly influential for a short period of time, for having brought VoidBourn's lack of discipline to attention. Aeon wrote extensively on religion and its interconnection with hallucinogenic substances, and was close with an Infrared-deranged hater, SpaceLaRouche, who turned on IGG and became obsessed with it after he was dismissed from the Schiller Institute. Aeon would, over the winter of 2023-24, continuously give unsolicited advice to showrunners and prominent figures in Infrared, recommending they run for office for certain legal immunities and schizoposting about the Mossad. Everyone ignored him or laughed him off for the most part, some even calling him a narcissist for acting like the smartest guy in the server. This was the most doomer discourse to plague the server since the refounding of the IGG Discord server, but it was contained, and Aeon was almost completely ignored from then on. | This incident led Infrared lurker Aeon Animus to become highly influential for a short period of time, for having brought VoidBourn's lack of discipline to attention. Aeon wrote extensively on religion and its interconnection with hallucinogenic substances, and was close with an Infrared-deranged hater, SpaceLaRouche, who turned on IGG and became obsessed with it after he was dismissed from the Schiller Institute. Aeon would, over the winter of 2023-24, continuously give unsolicited advice to showrunners and prominent figures in Infrared, recommending they run for office for certain legal immunities and schizoposting about the Mossad. His absolute stupidest take was that Infrared was alienating Nick Fuentes and his audience when we should have been working with them. Everyone ignored him or laughed him off for the most part, some even calling him a narcissist for acting like the smartest guy in the server. This was the most doomer discourse to plague the server since the refounding of the IGG Discord server, but it was contained, and Aeon was almost completely ignored from then on. | ||
===== [Haz vs Tim Pool and Trevor Loudon - NOVEMBER 10TH, 2023] ===== | ===== [Haz vs Tim Pool and Trevor Loudon - NOVEMBER 10TH, 2023] ===== |