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===== [Jackson and Haz vs Phil Labonte - SEPTEMBER/NOVEMBER 2023] ===== Phil Labonte is a libertarian and anti-Communist who is part of Tim Pool's podcast circle. On September 6th, 2023, Phil was scheduled to debate MAGA Communism with Jackson and Haz on Tim Pool's podcast on November 3rd, 2023. However, just a week before the debate was scheduled, Phil, who was talking an incredibly voluminous amount of trash on the duo from Infrared, claimed he never agreed to debate Haz. Jackson gave proof refuting Phil's claim that he didn't know Haz would be there, and showed that Haz was always supposed to join the debate. Instead, Jackson went on Timcast alone, it was rescheduled, and Haz went on Tim Pool's show the following week to debate Trevor Laudon and Tim Pool, since Phil Labonte bitched out. Through November and December of 2023, Haz did as Lenin did, went off into his cave and wrote laboriously his book. Because of this, he streamed less, but in addition to important media work and his book, Haz was also laying the groundwork for this new era of Infrared: the return to focus on leftism, another lengthy chapter in Infrared history. In the midst of his writing, Haz also travelled to Russia for a conference with Jackson, at which they spoke to [[Alexander Dugin|Dugin]]. Around this time Jackson also began contacting and speaking with the Houthis, Arab analysts and journalists, and doing more interviews with both independent and corporate media. Jackson and Haz went to China as well around this time. When they returned to America, Haz sought to become more professional, stop swearing so much, etc. In the leadup to the debate between Haz, Trevor Loudon, and Tim Pool, someone from Infrared nearly sabotaged the opportunity for Haz to go on Timcast by being undisciplined and unwise in an X space. VoidBourn is a well-known and well-intentioned member of Infrared who had major aesthetic appeal and potential to be a major IGG influencer, but this incident traumatized him. He deleted his X and Discord accounts, only to be seen again in December of 2024. This was extremely unfortunate, but served to usher in a period of reflection in which Toplop and other showrunners addressed people representing Infrared and still being unprofessional and undisciplined, to the point where it had nearly hindered a major opportunity for Haz to reach wider audiences. This incident led Infrared lurker Aeon Animus to become highly influential for a short period of time, for having brought VoidBourn's lack of discipline to attention. Aeon wrote extensively on religion and its interconnection with hallucinogenic substances, and was close with an Infrared-deranged hater, SpaceLaRouche, who turned on IGG and became obsessed with it after he was dismissed from the Schiller Institute. Aeon would, over the winter of 2023-24, continuously give unsolicited advice to showrunners and prominent figures in Infrared, recommending they run for office for certain legal immunities and schizoposting about the Mossad. Everyone ignored him or laughed him off for the most part, some even calling him a narcissist for acting like the smartest guy in the server. This was the most doomer discourse to plague the server since the refounding of the IGG Discord server, but it was contained, and Aeon was almost completely ignored from then on.
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