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===== [Haz vs [[James Lindsay]] - JUNE 2023] =====
James Lindsay is a public figure associated with [[Jordan Peterson]] and other "intellectual" anti-Communists. Lindsay, an outspoken opponent of "(woke) Marxism", spent the first two weeks of June 2023 on X railing against Marxism, which he usually describes as "woke academic post-modern mind-virus". After some banter and critique in James' replies from Haz and other Infrared members, they challenged Lindsay to debate Haz. Lindsay dismissed and blocked them. Haz quickly wrote a formal and lengthy response on X, entitled "Why Marxism is not Woke", released on June 23rd, 2023. Lindsay unblocked Haz simply to quote tweet and publically scoff at the thread, proceeding to reinstate the block immediately after.

Following this and other rebuffed challenges against the likes of Lindsay and Peterson (who also blocked Haz without response), Haz announced that Infrared's siege on leftists had come to an end and made way for a new crusade; If only the rightists were offering arguments and ideologies/worldviews which had gone unchecked, unaddressed, or unanswered, then that is where Infrared would develop and find strategic progress, mainly combatting lies and slander about Communism. Though Haz had already begun this vast rightward critique, nominally against anarcho-capitalists/libertarians and streamers like Sneako, Lindsay and Peterson's ignorance signified it's coming realization.  The era of Infrared clarifying theory and practical knowledge to leftists died simply because the milieu of leftists who were engaging in debate with IGG had been addressed time and again, and all that remained of them were a few sore, irrelevant agitators and [[NAFO]] bots. Meanwhile, rightists, whether "paleo-conservative", "Christian", libertarian, etc were willing to debate Haz since he drew a line from the very beginning, with Infrared distinct from academic Marxoids, third world Maoists, and trendy internet LARPers like Breadtube. In addition, the shift was a correction of the (by then) outdated focus on targeting leftists, a correct assessment as that following October X was overrun by neo-Nazi accounts, some gaining massive views and engagement, and Infrared would have to take a hardline golden stance against their chauvanist deceptions. 

The only one who loudly refused to debate Haz was [[Nick Fuentes]], who, at the time, was just gaining momentum online. Though Infrared and Haz himself have debated countless of Nick's followers and associates, he still dodges a one-on-one debate with Haz. Fuentes in the summer of 2024 thus contradicted his own previous statements that he is willing to debate Haz. Furthermore, later, in September 2024, Fuentes would ignore a two-on-two debate offer from [[Eddie Liger Smith]], which would have pit Haz and Eddie against Nick and a partner of his choice.

James Lindsay would later unblock Haz in late December 2024 just to narcissistically gloat about how correct he was about Haz, whom James still refused to debate or directly respond to in any way.