DEBATING Orthodox Convert: Is Marxism Satanic?

DEBATING Orthodox Convert: Is Marxism Satanic? is an Infrared livestream from Wed Jan 25th, 2023.^[1]

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2:04 Haz joins space
6:00 Haz is introduced to the space, Orthodox Catholic (Dimitry) wanted to debate Prism.
7:23 Dimitry recommends reading "the two anathemas" which criticize the Bolsheviks for seizure of Church property
8:11 Haz responds to the question of whether Lenin can be held responsible for the fanatical anti-religious sentiments among the rank and file of the proletarian movement
9:10 Haz finding quote about how Stalin et al. would intervene to protect the churchs from the anger of the masses
10:20 Stalin and the Central Committee prohibiting the closure of churches, prayer rooms, etc.
11:12 Some church property seizures were done on the basis of hunger relief
12:03 nrad claims that the Bolsheviks were already compromised because of the "Martyred Sovereign" (the deposed Romanovs)
14:48 Haz responding to the question of killing the Romanov family
15:03 The Russian government couldn't find any evidence of Lenin ordering the assassination of the Romanov family
15:55 The worldly church is fallible and is bound by political circumstance
18:46 Usually the youth are inspired by religion and become fanatical, but during the Russian Revolution they became fanatical atheists, which was pushed back against by Stalin

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1:47:15 nrad goes on an insane screed against "the Jews in power" "the ones that run the media"
1:48:31 Haz mentions the various Abrahamic alliances which are emerging against Western Imperialism
- Chechen Muslims fighting alongside Russian Orthodox to defeat the US-backed Maidan coup regime in Ukraine
- Christians and Muslims fighting against US-backed extremist proxies in Syria
- Lebanon Christian-Muslim alliances
1:49:49 Haz is kicked from the debate
1:53:05 Despite opposition to anti-semites like Dimitry, the liberals in power still baselessly accuse Haz of anti-semitism
1:54:16 The "they" that is our enemy is not Jews, it's the Liberals
1:55:03 We have brothers in faith, and we have brothers in humanity. To those who aren't Jewish themselves, Jews are our brothers in humanity. Those who seek to stir up enmity amongst faiths are deploying the British divide and conquer strategy.
1:56:33 The elites and the media apparatus falsely claims that Globalist is a dogwhistle for Jew. It's not. It means cosmopolitan liberal / capitalist who worships mammon. Religious Jews reject the worship of mammon.

1:58:43 Beginning of lecture on the Christian notion of forgiveness
1:59:38 The few "good leftists" remaining are Midwestern Marx and Noah Kravchik
2:02:25 True forgiveness is an indictment of the institutions of injustice
2:02:55 Doubling down on the usury metaphor, forgiveness isn't the abolition of debts, it's the abolition of the banks
2:05:11 On the forgiveness of racists and bigots in order to construct a new world, a Year Zero
The "cathedral" of Liberal Democracy is corrupt, it must be condemned, and its enemies must be forgiven (until they sin against the new system)
If you have a corrupt prison system, everyone must be released
"The most revolutionary thing is forgiveness"
2:08:41 Leftists refuse to offer good faith to MAGA people
2:11:18 Theological disputes should not be raised to the point of human enmity (again, brothers in humanity, despite not being brothers in faith)
2:16:46 Communism is a means of bringing about a "Universal Humanity"
2:19:16 Satan is called "Satan the accuser"^[2]^[3]
2:20:04 All can be our brothers in humanity, if they fight against injustice and wickedness; those who spread deceit, slander, and lies
2:21:42 The war we're in is a war between truth and lies. It's hard to fight for truth.