ProleWiki: Difference between revisions

From InfraWiki
No edit summary
m (added links)
 
(10 intermediate revisions by 5 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:


'''ProleWiki''' is a communist [[:Category:Wikis|wiki]] which has taken a stance against [[Patriotic Socialism]] in the [[United States]].<ref>https://en.prolewiki.org/index.php?title=Topic:X4ygr8pzog88sh7n&topic_showPostId=x4ygr8pzok6b0l5v#flow-post-x4ygr8pzok6b0l5v</ref>
'''ProleWiki''' is a liberal [[:Category:Wikis|wiki]] which LARPs as Communist for reasons unknown.


This ideological position can be explained by some administrators residing outside of the United States, while the prominent voices against Patriotic Socialism inside the US claim themselves to be "nihilists"<ref>[https://en.prolewiki.org/index.php?title=Comrade:Wisconcom&oldid=18421 Comrade:Wisconcom on ProleWiki] [https://web.archive.org/web/20220921235456/https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Comrade:Wisconcom (Archived)]</ref> and thus want nothing to do with winning over the American masses.  
It is controlled by gatekeeping LARPers who, curiously enough, have absolutely no explanation whatsoever for why Communist ideas have been irrelevant in Western countries for over half a century. Exactly what they are trying to gatekeep is unclear, but they are a significant source of disinformation about actually successful Western Communists such as [[Jackson Hinkle]] and [[Infrared]].  


The hostility of ProleWiki towards Caleb Maupin and his Center for Political Innovation, Jackson Hinkle, the Infrared Community and Haz has been a contributing factor for the creation of [[InfraWiki]].  
Some of its prominent voices inside the US refer to themselves as "nihilists"<ref>[https://en.prolewiki.org/index.php?title=Comrade:Wisconcom&oldid=18421 Comrade:Wisconcom on ProleWiki] [https://web.archive.org/web/20220921235456/https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Comrade:Wisconcom (Archived)]</ref> and thus hostile to the successful propagation of Communist ideas.
 
The hostility of ProleWiki towards the Infrared Community has been a contributing factor for the creation of [[InfraWiki]].
 
== Slander against Infrared ==
 
The ProleWiki page on Infrared makes the idiotic claim that Haz is a reformist.<ref name=":0">https://web.archive.org/web/20240117084659/https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Infrared</ref> The evidence they cite is a livestream in which he calls [[Jason Unruhe]] an idiot for waving an airsoft gun and urging people to "pick up a gun and fight". What Haz actually says is "the proletarian party must have the logistical, organisational, and mass support to acquire hegemony... [Violence] may very well be necessary but it isn't the point."<ref>https://youtu.be/2IKJfz9wfhg?t=4139</ref>
 
They also spout [[Third Worldism|Third Worldist]] jibber jabber denouncing Haz's "settler colonialism".<ref name=":0" /> In fact, Haz has denounced the violence and dispossession that Native Americans historically suffered<ref>https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/c93622ab-bea4-49cf-a380-44ec5c929b85/</ref>, he just doesn't subscribe to [[J. Sakai|J. Sakai's]] CIA-approved nonsense that there is no white working class and that revolution can't happen in the First World.<ref>http://web.archive.org/web/20211207060339/https://twitter.com/InfraHaz/status/1443679693685800966</ref>
 
The article goes on to claim that Infrared's [[CPUSA 2036]] is about trying to win the 2036 election, citing a post on fandom.com, which has no connection with Infrared and doesn't even mention the 2036 election<ref>http://web.archive.org/web/20240117091147/https://future.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000244029</ref>. Infrared has dismissed electoral politics on several occasions, and said that 2036 was the year CPUSA would return as a relevant force in American politics.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFj0pSIbRsE&t=9389s&ab_channel=InfraredVODs</ref>
 
ProleWiki repeats the nonsense that [[MAGA Communism]] is tailing [[Donald Trump]]. Haz has repeatedly called Trump a clown and said that MAGA people often hold stupid views that need to be corrected, but nevertheless MAGA represents a historic event in US politics. Infrared's view is that prior to MAGA there was no ''real political distinction'' and the movement has reintroduced the [[Partisan|Schmittian partisan]] to America.<ref>https://showinfrared.substack.com/p/the-rise-of-maga-communism</ref>


As of January 2023, ProleWiki is undergoing massive internal conflict, with [[Ultra-leftism|ultra-left]] factions attempting to change the ideological line of the site.<ref>[https://wisconcom.substack.com/p/announcement-on-the-creation-of-the/comments?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2 Announcement on the creation of the Committee to Reconstitute ProleWiki] by [[Wisconcom]] on [[Substack]] ... original unavailable and was never archived, it might've been renamed to [https://wisconcom.substack.com/p/on-prolewiki On ProleWiki] ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20230310192122/https://wisconcom.substack.com/p/on-prolewikihttps://web.archive.org/web/20230310192122/https://wisconcom.substack.com/p/on-prolewiki (archived)]''</ref>
==References==
==References==
<references />
<references />
[[Category:Wikis]]
[[Category:Wikis]]

Latest revision as of 02:47, 21 January 2024

ProleWiki is a liberal wiki which LARPs as Communist for reasons unknown.

It is controlled by gatekeeping LARPers who, curiously enough, have absolutely no explanation whatsoever for why Communist ideas have been irrelevant in Western countries for over half a century. Exactly what they are trying to gatekeep is unclear, but they are a significant source of disinformation about actually successful Western Communists such as Jackson Hinkle and Infrared.

Some of its prominent voices inside the US refer to themselves as "nihilists"[1] and thus hostile to the successful propagation of Communist ideas.

The hostility of ProleWiki towards the Infrared Community has been a contributing factor for the creation of InfraWiki.

Slander against Infrared[edit | edit source]

The ProleWiki page on Infrared makes the idiotic claim that Haz is a reformist.[2] The evidence they cite is a livestream in which he calls Jason Unruhe an idiot for waving an airsoft gun and urging people to "pick up a gun and fight". What Haz actually says is "the proletarian party must have the logistical, organisational, and mass support to acquire hegemony... [Violence] may very well be necessary but it isn't the point."[3]

They also spout Third Worldist jibber jabber denouncing Haz's "settler colonialism".[2] In fact, Haz has denounced the violence and dispossession that Native Americans historically suffered[4], he just doesn't subscribe to J. Sakai's CIA-approved nonsense that there is no white working class and that revolution can't happen in the First World.[5]

The article goes on to claim that Infrared's CPUSA 2036 is about trying to win the 2036 election, citing a post on fandom.com, which has no connection with Infrared and doesn't even mention the 2036 election[6]. Infrared has dismissed electoral politics on several occasions, and said that 2036 was the year CPUSA would return as a relevant force in American politics.[7]

ProleWiki repeats the nonsense that MAGA Communism is tailing Donald Trump. Haz has repeatedly called Trump a clown and said that MAGA people often hold stupid views that need to be corrected, but nevertheless MAGA represents a historic event in US politics. Infrared's view is that prior to MAGA there was no real political distinction and the movement has reintroduced the Schmittian partisan to America.[8]

References[edit | edit source]