Why is Second Thought So Weird?

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Why is Second Thought So Weird? is an Infrared livestream from Sun Jan 29, 2023.[1]

Video description

A response to Second Thought's recent 'Why is American Patriotism So Weird' video[2], where I point out his revision of basic, Marxist-Leninist orthodoxy in favor of an unabashed form of liberalism. Second Thought, or JT Chapman, is partaking in the liquidation of the CPUSA into a fully-fledged Open Society party, and has made a video for gullible thoughtless liberal NPCs that, while accommodating the sentiments of young Democrats, stands entirely opposed to basic Marxism.

Notes

Intro thoughts

  • The two archetypes of the global communist movement are the Communist Party of Greece (bad) versus the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (good)
  • You can't have communism without patriotism
  • German communists were patriots, they opposed Nazism. Americans can be patriotic while opposing the American empire.
  • JT is a RedLib
  • The RedLibs take Stalin's quote from Marxism and the National Question out of context, pretending that the "banner of bourgeois nationalism" refers to the nation, rather than the specific bourgeois form of the nation[3]
  • American Patriotism isn't any weirder than any other Patriotism, the only anti-patriotic people are the bourgeoisie, the global elites
  • Xi Jinping talks about a shared destiny and a community of mankind, which is not in contrast to Chinese patriotism
  • Philosophically, Marxism argues that every universality has a determinate form. You can't begin with abstract universality, you must engage with the determinate forms of patriotisms in order to sublate patriotism (this hasn't happened yet, and JT Chapman can't will it into existence)

Reacting to JT's video

  • American patriotism is only weird compared to Europe. Hitlerite, European Union, Nazi-occupied, eugenicist Europe.
  • Russian, Chinese, North Korean patriots, they all engage in spectacles of patriotism similar to that of the American patriots
  • JT is taking a strong stance in favor of European Cosmopolitanism and Coastal Elitism, whereas yeehaws in flyover states are more akin to Chinese or Russian patriots
  • Marxism would've never gained mass support among the peasantry if it hadn't been patriotic
  • Read Marxism and the National Question
  • "Not everyone is a cosmopolitan detached YouTuber"
  • America was never supposed to be an empire, the imperialism of America is a parasitic deep state which is in opposition to the American proletariat
  • The determinate basis of the American empire is in institutions
    1. international capital (Wall Street, City of London)
    2. international organizations controlled by those poles of power
    3. soft power apparatuses (big tech)
  • The determinate basis of American patriotism finds itself in opposition to this globalist coalescence
  • Cosmopolitanism is a lie, there is no determinate form of the global village until firstly all members of the global village have achieved the overthrow of Empire
  • The elites seek to hide national character
  • American patriots take responsibility for their country's actions. Patriots thus can stand up against the US-led New Cold War.
  • Anti-patriots stand up for global abstractions like "human rights" and get into "Neither Washington Nor Moscow" type of thinking

References

  1. https://youtu.be/g4sS4K2c5sc
  2. Why Is American Patriotism So Weird? by Second Thought on YouTube
  3. "Whether the proletariat rallies to the banner of bourgeois nationalism depends on the degree of development of class antagonisms, on the class consciousness and degree of organization of the proletariat. The class-conscious proletariat has its own tried banner, and has no need to rally to the banner of the bourgeoisie." -- Stalin on Marxism and the National Question