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==== Part 1 ====
==== Part 1 ====
'''Claim''' (02:22): ''"in the middle of the 19th century Moses Hess formulated the first written principles for communism"'' This claim is loosly based on Hess association with Marx and Engels, and Moses view that history will culminate in the introduction of common property,<ref>https://assets.cambridge.org/052138/7566/frontmatter/0521387566_frontmatter.pdf"Our era strives towards equality – this cannot be denied; but [does this imply] that it is headed immediately towards the community of property? Let this happen one day in the future, let it be the last goal of ageing mankind."</ref> formulated in his Spinozist book ''Die heilige Geschichte der Menschheit'' (1837), which had no explicit mention of communism. Hess was, however, not the first person to argue for the abolition of private property, nor the first to formulate a political platform with the word communism, neither was he the first person to use the word communism. It's real origins stem from people and groups arguing for a communal organisation of society in France and England during the mid 19th century, ''Commun, Communion'' and ''community.'' It can not be pinned to one person.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20201218153511/http://s3.amazonaws.com/arena-attachments/1385668/2a0d6d0b045feef2adb6ae76ec9a2c92.pdf?1509502303</ref> First attested in writing - meaning '''first record of political principles''' - by John Goodwin Barmby in 1841, founder of the utopian, christian, London Communist Propaganda Society.<ref>https://www.etymonline.com/word/communism</ref> People arguing for the abolition of private property (as Engels put it, the meaning of communism in one sentence), predated the 19th century. For example the French Catholic abbé Jean Meslier's ''Testament'' (1729) '''Verdict''': False


'''Claim''' (03:09): "Hess argued that the international jewish bankers will help in his realisation of stealing the land of the palestinians"
===== Claim (02:22): "in the middle of the 19th century Moses Hess formulated the first written principles for communism" =====
This claim is loosly based on Hess association with Marx and Engels, and Moses view that history will culminate in the introduction of common property,<ref>https://assets.cambridge.org/052138/7566/frontmatter/0521387566_frontmatter.pdf"Our era strives towards equality – this cannot be denied; but [does this imply] that it is headed immediately towards the community of property? Let this happen one day in the future, let it be the last goal of ageing mankind."</ref> formulated in his Spinozist book ''Die heilige Geschichte der Menschheit'' (1837), which had no explicit mention of communism. Hess was, however, not the first person to argue for the abolition of private property, nor the first to formulate a political platform with the word communism, neither was he the first person to use the word communism. It's real origins stem from people and groups arguing for a communal organisation of society in France and England during the mid 19th century, ''Commun, Communion'' and ''community.'' It can not be pinned to one person.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20201218153511/http://s3.amazonaws.com/arena-attachments/1385668/2a0d6d0b045feef2adb6ae76ec9a2c92.pdf?1509502303</ref> First attested in writing - meaning '''first record of political principles''' - by John Goodwin Barmby in 1841, founder of the utopian, christian, London Communist Propaganda Society.<ref>https://www.etymonline.com/word/communism</ref> People arguing for the abolition of private property (as Engels put it, the meaning of communism in one sentence), predated the 19th century. For example the French Catholic abbé Jean Meslier's ''Testament'' (1729) '''Verdict''': False


'''Claims''' (04:08): "''Hess was a close friend and collaborator of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels''" He was indeed a close associate, together with other young hegelians, and they corresponded an influenced eachother in early writings. '''Verdict:''' True!
===== '''Claim''' (03:09): "Hess argued that the international jewish bankers will help in his realisation of stealing the land of the palestinians" =====


"''Karl Marx and Engels were Jewish''" Engels was not Jewish, his lineage is accessible here.<ref>https://www.geni.com/people/Friedrich-Engels/6000000008380892494 </ref> The father of Karl Marx was a jew by birth, however he converted to christianity to pursue a law career, Marx at the time 6 years old, was also converted. Simultaneously, Marx has been accused of antisemitism for his writings on the jewish question, which shows the complete retardation of speculative, non-material ideology. '''Verdict:''' False
===== '''Claims''' (04:08): "Hess was a close friend and collaborator of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels" =====
He was indeed a close associate, together with other young hegelians, and they corresponded an influenced eachother in early writings. '''Verdict:''' True!


''"Karl Marx real name was Mordechai Levy"'' His fathers, Heschel Lewy, changed his own family name before Marx was born. Not once in his life did Karl Marx use his fathers birth name in writing. '''Verdict:''' False
===== "Karl Marx and Engels were Jewish" =====
Engels was not Jewish, his lineage is accessible here.<ref>https://www.geni.com/people/Friedrich-Engels/6000000008380892494 </ref> The father of Karl Marx was a jew by birth, however he converted to christianity to pursue a law career. Marx, at the time 6 years old, was also converted. Simultaneously, Marx has been accused of antisemitism for his writings on the jewish question, which shows the complete retardation of speculative, non-material ideology. '''Verdict:''' False


"''Hess converted them to communism and assisted them with their work The Communist Manifesto''" Hess first came into contact with Marx in 1942, and their relationship was quite the opposite, Marx was the teacher of Hess.<ref>"[Marx] goes beyond Strauss and even beyond Feuerbach . . . Such a man I always wanted to have as my teacher in philosophy. Only now do I feel what an idiot in philosophy have I been. But patience! I will still learn something. Dr Marx – this is the name of my idol" - A letter to Berthold Auerbach by Moses Hess
===== "Karl Marx real name was Mordechai Levy" =====
His fathers, Heschel Lewy, changed his own family name before Marx was born. Not once in his life did Karl Marx use his fathers birth name in writing. '''Verdict:''' False


https://assets.cambridge.org/052138/7566/frontmatter/0521387566_frontmatter.pdf</ref> Working together on the newspaper. Marx early writings are available here,<ref>https://files.libcom.org/files/Marx-Early-Writings.pdf</ref> where he slowely lands in the conclusion of communism, from an entirely different angle, an economical, than Hess.  '''Verdict''':
===== "Hess converted them to communism and assisted them with their work The Communist Manifesto" =====
Hess first came into contact with Marx in 1942 - working together on a newspaper in the intellectual, communist enviroment of Paris - and their relationship was quite the opposite, Marx was the teacher of Hess.<ref>"[Marx] goes beyond Strauss and even beyond Feuerbach . . . Such a man I always wanted to have as my teacher in philosophy. Only now do I feel what an idiot in philosophy have I been. But patience! I will still learn something. Dr Marx – this is the name of my idol" - A letter to Berthold Auerbach by Moses Hess


'''Claim''' (06:40): ''Marx openly encouraged genocide against slavs, referring to them as "racial trash"''. There is absolutely zero record of this. He would routinely critique precisely such racial incitements.<ref>This was done not in order to reconcile us with the other provinces, but to stir up hatred between the provinces and to '''exploit''' the '''national enmity''' between the '''Germans''' and '''Slavs''', and the regional hatred of every petty German province against all the neighboring provinces, '''in the interests of patriarchal feudal despotism'''. Divide et impera!
https://assets.cambridge.org/052138/7566/frontmatter/0521387566_frontmatter.pdf</ref> Marx early writings are available here,<ref>https://files.libcom.org/files/Marx-Early-Writings.pdf</ref> where he slowely lands in the conclusion of communism, from an entirely different angle, a materialist one, than Hess. Marx writes that he was influenced not only by Hess, but by Weitling and Engels - the only germans to translate french communist ideas into german - furthermore by French and English socialists,<ref>https://philarchive.org/archive/KOVMHM<nowiki/>Economic Manuscripts (1844)
 
"It goes without saying that besided the French and English socialists, I have also used German socialist works. The only ''original'' German works of substance in this science, however, - other than Weitling's writings - are the essays by ''Hess...'' and Engels"</ref> which were utopian christians. While Hess definetly influenced both on the subject of money, the narrative is deeply missconstrued. Furthermore, when Marx and Engels wrote the communist manifesto, they would critique Hess's utopian form of communism. '''Verdict''': False
 
===== Claim (06:40): Marx openly encouraged genocide against slavs, referring to them as "racial trash". =====
There is absolutely zero record of this. He would routinely critique precisely such racial incitements.<ref>This was done not in order to reconcile us with the other provinces, but to stir up hatred between the provinces and to '''exploit''' the '''national enmity''' between the '''Germans''' and '''Slavs''', and the regional hatred of every petty German province against all the neighboring provinces, '''in the interests of patriarchal feudal despotism'''. Divide et impera!


https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/Marx_Articles_from_the_NRZ.pdf</ref> We can nonetheless note that Marx and Engels were both racist, antisemitic and sexist in private communication. '''Verdict:''' False.  
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/Marx_Articles_from_the_NRZ.pdf</ref> We can nonetheless note that Marx and Engels were both racist, antisemitic and sexist in private communication. '''Verdict:''' False.  


'''Claim''' (06:45): ''"Marx said that [slavs] must perish in a revolutionary holocaust (in 1856)"'' The quote shown on screen is as follows: "the classes and races too weak to master the new conditions of life must give away... They must perish in a revolutionary holocaust." The first part is a real quote, from 1853, not 1856. So close! Marx is commenting on the refugees of poor farmers from Ireland due to the negative effects off industrialisation. He sees these negative effects as an inevitable part of capitalist modernisation, so he is, in his own mind, not arguing for anything.<ref>https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1853/03/04.htm"Society is undergoing a silent revolution, which must be submitted to, and which takes no more notice of the human existences it breaks down than an earthquake regards the houses it subverts. The classes and the races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way."</ref> The second part is completely fictional, perhaps it was revealed to Tobias B. in a dream. '''Verdict:''' False
===== Claim (06:45): "Marx said that [slavs] must perish in a revolutionary holocaust (in 1856)" =====
 
The quote shown on screen is as follows: ''"the classes and races too weak to master the new conditions of life must give away... They must perish in a revolutionary holocaust."'' The first part is a real quote, from 1853, not 1856. So close! Marx is commenting on the refugee crisis of poor farmers from Ireland due to the negative effects off industrialisation. He sees these negative effects as an inevitable part of capitalist modernisation, so he is, in his own mind, not arguing for anything.<ref>https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1853/03/04.htm"Society is undergoing a silent revolution, which must be submitted to, and which takes no more notice of the human existences it breaks down than an earthquake regards the houses it subverts. The classes and the races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way."</ref> The second part is completely fictional, perhaps it was revealed to Tobias B. in a dream. '''Verdict:''' False


'''Claim (08:36):''' "The wealthy jews rule the world; the fate of the governments lies in their hands. They start wars between countries, and when they wish, the governments make peace. When the wealthy jews sing, the nations and their leaders dance along, and meanwhile the jews get richer!" a quote by Josef Herzl.
=====  Claim (08:36): A quote by zionist Josef Herzl is shown on the screen, where he claims that wealthy jews rule the world and start the wars in europe. =====
The quote reads as follows: ''"The wealthy jews rule the world; the fate of the governments lies in their hands. They start wars between countries, and when they wish, the governments make peace. When the wealthy jews sing, the nations and their leaders dance along, and meanwhile the jews get richer!"'' 


===== Claim: Marx was related to the Rothschilds =====
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Let's investigate the lineage. '''Mayer Amschel Rothschild''' (1744 – 1812) was the founder of the banking dynasty. He '''does not have a common ancestor with Marx'''. One of his five children however - Nathan Mayer Rothschild - married Hannah Barent Cohen. Hannah's Grandfather, Barent Cohen, was the '''Grand-Grand-Grand''' father of Marx'''. Verdict:''' true
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