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==== Part 1 ====

'''Claim''' (02:22): "in the middle of the 19th century Moses Hess formulated the first written principles for communism" This claim is loosly based on Hess ~~involvement~~ with Marx and Engels, and Moses view that history will culminate in the introduction of common property, formulated in his Spinozist book ''Die heilige Geschichte der Menschheit'' (1937).<ref>https://assets.cambridge.org/052138/7566/frontmatter/0521387566_frontmatter.pdf</ref> Hess was, however, not the first person to use the word communism, nor the first to formulate a political platform with the word, neither was he the first person to argue for the abolition of private property. It's real origins stem from people and groups arguing for a communal organisation of society in France and England during the mid 19th century, ''Commun, Communion'' and ''community.'' It can not be pinned to one person.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20201218153511/http://s3.amazonaws.com/arena-attachments/1385668/2a0d6d0b045feef2adb6ae76ec9a2c92.pdf?1509502303</ref> First attested in writing - meaning '''first record of political principles''' - by John Goodwin Barmby in 1841, founder of the utopian, christian, London Communist Propaganda Society.<ref>https://www.etymonline.com/word/communism</ref> People arguing for the abolition of private property (as Engels put it, the meaning of communism in one sentence), predated the 19th century. For example the French Catholic abbé Jean Meslier's ''Testament'' (1729) '''Verdict''': False

'''Claim''' (02:22): "in the middle of the 19th century Moses Hess formulated the first written principles for communism" This claim is loosly based on Hess association with Marx and Engels, and Moses view that history will culminate in the introduction of common property, formulated in his Spinozist book ''Die heilige Geschichte der Menschheit'' (1937).<ref>https://assets.cambridge.org/052138/7566/frontmatter/0521387566_frontmatter.pdf</ref> Hess was, however, not the first person to use the word communism, nor the first to formulate a political platform with the word, neither was he the first person to argue for the abolition of private property. It's real origins stem from people and groups arguing for a communal organisation of society in France and England during the mid 19th century, ''Commun, Communion'' and ''community.'' It can not be pinned to one person.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20201218153511/http://s3.amazonaws.com/arena-attachments/1385668/2a0d6d0b045feef2adb6ae76ec9a2c92.pdf?1509502303</ref> First attested in writing - meaning '''first record of political principles''' - by John Goodwin Barmby in 1841, founder of the utopian, christian, London Communist Propaganda Society.<ref>https://www.etymonline.com/word/communism</ref> People arguing for the abolition of private property (as Engels put it, the meaning of communism in one sentence), predated the 19th century. For example the French Catholic abbé Jean Meslier's ''Testament'' (1729) '''Verdict''': False

'''Claim''' (03:09): "Hess argued that the international jewish bankers will help in his realisation of stealing the land of the palestinians"

'''Claim''' (04:08): "Hess was a close friend and collaborator of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, and converted them communism"

'''Claim''' (04:08): "Hess was a close friend and collaborator of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, and converted them communism". He was indeed a close associate, together with other young hegelians, and they cooporated in their writings. Engels wrote that Hess was the person who finally convinced him of communism. However, he first came into contact with Marx in 1942, and the relationship was quite the opposite. Marx, was the teacher of Hess.<ref>"[Marx] goes beyond Strauss and even beyond Feuerbach . . . Such a man I always wanted to have as my teacher in philosophy. Only now do I feel what an idiot in philosophy have I been. But patience! I will still learn something. Dr Marx – this is the name of my idol" - A letter to Berthold Auerbach by Moses Hess

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 ==== Part 1 ====
-'''Claim''' (02:22): "in the middle of the 19th century Moses Hess formulated the first written principles for communism" This claim is loosly based on Hess involvement with Marx and Engels, and Moses view that history will culminate in the introduction of common property, formulated in his Spinozist book ''Die heilige Geschichte der Menschheit'' (1937).<ref>https://assets.cambridge.org/052138/7566/frontmatter/0521387566_frontmatter.pdf</ref> Hess was, however, not the first person to use the word communism, nor the first to formulate a political platform with the word, neither was he the first person to argue for the abolition of private property. It's real origins stem from people and groups arguing for a communal organisation of society in France and England during the mid 19th century, ''Commun, Communion'' and ''community.'' It can not be pinned to one person.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20201218153511/http://s3.amazonaws.com/arena-attachments/1385668/2a0d6d0b045feef2adb6ae76ec9a2c92.pdf?1509502303</ref> First attested in writing - meaning '''first record of political principles''' - by John Goodwin Barmby in 1841, founder of the utopian, christian, London Communist Propaganda Society.<ref>https://www.etymonline.com/word/communism</ref> People arguing for the abolition of private property (as Engels put it, the meaning of communism in one sentence), predated the 19th century. For example the French Catholic abbé Jean Meslier's ''Testament'' (1729) '''Verdict''': False
+'''Claim''' (02:22): "in the middle of the 19th century Moses Hess formulated the first written principles for communism" This claim is loosly based on Hess association with Marx and Engels, and Moses view that history will culminate in the introduction of common property, formulated in his Spinozist book ''Die heilige Geschichte der Menschheit'' (1937).<ref>https://assets.cambridge.org/052138/7566/frontmatter/0521387566_frontmatter.pdf</ref> Hess was, however, not the first person to use the word communism, nor the first to formulate a political platform with the word, neither was he the first person to argue for the abolition of private property. It's real origins stem from people and groups arguing for a communal organisation of society in France and England during the mid 19th century, ''Commun, Communion'' and ''community.'' It can not be pinned to one person.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20201218153511/http://s3.amazonaws.com/arena-attachments/1385668/2a0d6d0b045feef2adb6ae76ec9a2c92.pdf?1509502303</ref> First attested in writing - meaning '''first record of political principles''' - by John Goodwin Barmby in 1841, founder of the utopian, christian, London Communist Propaganda Society.<ref>https://www.etymonline.com/word/communism</ref> People arguing for the abolition of private property (as Engels put it, the meaning of communism in one sentence), predated the 19th century. For example the French Catholic abbé Jean Meslier's ''Testament'' (1729) '''Verdict''': False
 '''Claim''' (03:09): "Hess argued that the international jewish bankers will help in his realisation of stealing the land of the palestinians"
-'''Claim''' (04:08): "Hess was a close friend and collaborator of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, and converted them communism"
+'''Claim''' (04:08): "Hess was a close friend and collaborator of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, and converted them communism". He was indeed a close associate, together with other young hegelians, and they cooporated in their writings. Engels wrote that Hess was the person who finally convinced him of communism. However, he first came into contact with Marx in 1942, and the relationship was quite the opposite. Marx, was the teacher of Hess.<ref>"[Marx] goes beyond Strauss and even beyond Feuerbach . . . Such a man I always wanted to have as my teacher in philosophy. Only now do I feel what an idiot in philosophy have I been. But patience! I will still learn something. Dr Marx – this is the name of my idol" - A letter to Berthold Auerbach by Moses Hess
+https://assets.cambridge.org/052138/7566/frontmatter/0521387566_frontmatter.pdf</ref>
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