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[[File:Aaaaaaaaa.png|thumb|Haz's world-historical tweet. They were not in fact ready to know.]]

"'''We already live in socialism'''" is a phrase used by [[Infrared]] to signify that the process of achieving [[socialism]] ~~has~~ already ~~begun~~. The phrase was first introduced in Haz's earliest YouTube streams, and later notably during a Twitch stream discussing the controversial tweet by [[Haz Al-Din|Haz]] on the matter. <blockquote>"When we pass from joint-stock companies to trusts which assume control over, and monopolize, whole industries, it is not only private production that ceases, but also planlessness."

"'''We already live in socialism'''" is a phrase used by [[Infrared]] to signify that the process of achieving [[socialism]] is an objective process already realized through capitalism. The phrase was first introduced in Haz's earliest YouTube streams, and later notably during a Twitch stream discussing the controversial tweet by [[Haz Al-Din|Haz]] on the matter. <blockquote>"When we pass from joint-stock companies to trusts which assume control over, and monopolize, whole industries, it is not only private production that ceases, but also planlessness." — Friedrich Engels (''Neue Zeit'', Vol. XX, 1, 1901-02, p.8) </blockquote>According to Marxism, Socialism is a mode of production that develops within the womb of capitalism.

~~— Friedrich Engels (~~''~~Neue Zeit~~'', ~~Vol~~. XX, 1, ~~1901-02~~, p.8) </blockquote>

<blockquote>"This solution can only consist in the practical recognition of '''the social nature of the modern forces of production,''' '''and therefore in the''' '''harmonizing with the socialized character of the means of production'''. And this can only come about by society openly and directly taking possession of the productive forces which have outgrown all control, except that of society as a whole. The social character of the means of production and of the products today reacts against the producers, periodically disrupts all production and exchange, acts only like a law of Nature working blindly, forcibly, destructively. But, with the taking over by society of the productive forces, '''the social character of the means of production and of the products will be utilized by the producers with a perfect understanding of its nature, and instead of being a source of disturbance and periodical collapse, will become the most powerful lever of production itself.'''" — ''Friedrich Engels'' (''Socialism: Utopian and Scientific, Chapter III: Historical Materialism)''</blockquote>Here, Engels explains that the socialization process forced by capitalist competition creates an increasingly planned economy that is, while at first used by capitalist-monopolists to their advantage, is then used by the proletarian state to the producer's own advantage.

"We already live in socialism" refers to this objective realization of a socialized economic reality and the redundancy of "socialism" in addressing the social question. Marxism-Leninism as a historical significance is relevant here.

==Class consciousness==

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 [[File:Aaaaaaaaa.png|thumb|Haz's world-historical tweet. They were not in fact ready to know.]]
-"'''We already live in socialism'''" is a phrase used by [[Infrared]] to signify that the process of achieving [[socialism]] has already begun. The phrase was first introduced in Haz's earliest YouTube streams, and later notably during a Twitch stream discussing the controversial tweet by [[Haz Al-Din|Haz]] on the matter. <blockquote>"When we pass from joint-stock companies to trusts which assume control over, and monopolize, whole industries, it is not only private production that ceases, but also planlessness."
+"'''We already live in socialism'''" is a phrase used by [[Infrared]] to signify that the process of achieving [[socialism]] is an objective process already realized through capitalism. The phrase was first introduced in Haz's earliest YouTube streams, and later notably during a Twitch stream discussing the controversial tweet by [[Haz Al-Din|Haz]] on the matter. <blockquote>"When we pass from joint-stock companies to trusts which assume control over, and monopolize, whole industries, it is not only private production that ceases, but also planlessness."  — Friedrich Engels (''Neue Zeit'', Vol. XX, 1, 1901-02, p.8) </blockquote>According to Marxism, Socialism is a mode of production that develops within the womb of capitalism.
-— Friedrich Engels (''Neue Zeit'', Vol. XX, 1, 1901-02, p.8) </blockquote>
+<blockquote>"This solution can only consist in the practical recognition of '''the social nature of the modern forces of production,''' '''and therefore in the''' '''harmonizing with the socialized character of the means of production'''. And this can only come about by society openly and directly taking possession of the productive forces which have outgrown all control, except that of society as a whole. The social character of the means of production and of the products today reacts against the producers, periodically disrupts all production and exchange, acts only like a law of Nature working blindly, forcibly, destructively. But, with the taking over by society of the productive forces, '''the social character of the means of production and of the products will be utilized by the producers with a perfect understanding of its nature, and instead of being a source of disturbance and periodical collapse, will become the most powerful lever of production itself.'''" — ''Friedrich Engels'' (''Socialism: Utopian and Scientific, Chapter III: Historical Materialism)''</blockquote>Here, Engels explains that the socialization process forced by capitalist competition creates an increasingly planned economy that is, while at first used by capitalist-monopolists to their advantage, is then used by the proletarian state to the producer's own advantage.
+"We already live in socialism" refers to this objective realization of a socialized economic reality and the redundancy of "socialism" in addressing the social question. Marxism-Leninism as a historical significance is relevant here.
 ==Class consciousness==