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'''Dark Ma Lie''' (dark Marxism-Leninism) is Haz's name for [[Infrared]]'s mature self-understanding: '''post-ideological [[Marxism-Leninism]]''', oriented by [[cosmism|cosmos]] and [[infrawoke|moral]] substance rather than ideological formula.
'''Dark Ma Lie''' (dark Marxism-Leninism) is Haz's name for [[Infrared]]'s mature self-understanding: '''post-ideological [[Marxism-Leninism]]''', oriented by [[cosmism|cosmos]] and [[infrawoke|moral]] substance rather than ideological formula.
马列 Ma Lie (pronounced maa lyeh) means Marx-Lenin in Chinese, as in 马列主义 Ma Lie Zhuyi "Marxism-Leninism". Mali is a mispronunciation/misspelling.


From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/50155ce0-af8c-434a-97f8-9162f2cfc351/ ICE UPRISING stream]:
From the [https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/50155ce0-af8c-434a-97f8-9162f2cfc351/ ICE UPRISING stream]:
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<blockquote>"Infrared's special articulation... is a lineage which I recently have articulated and like to call dark Ma Lie — dark Marxism. To explain what dark Marxism is: it is a post-ideological understanding of Marxism-Leninism... The problem of 20th century Marxism-Leninism, in both Stalin's Soviet Union and Mao's China, was that it was too ideological."</blockquote>
<blockquote>"Infrared's special articulation... is a lineage which I recently have articulated and like to call dark Ma Lie — dark Marxism. To explain what dark Marxism is: it is a post-ideological understanding of Marxism-Leninism... The problem of 20th century Marxism-Leninism, in both Stalin's Soviet Union and Mao's China, was that it was too ideological."</blockquote>


==Ma Lie==
==Connections in streams==
 
马列 Ma Lie means Marx-Lenin in Chinese, as in 马列主义 Ma Lie Zhuyi, "Marxism-Leninism". The "i" in "lie" is pronounced as "ye", but the phrase is often mispronounced and misspelled as "ma li".
 
==From the streams==
 
===Dark Ma Lie on inequality===


And ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/fac9a5c8-7ef1-4dfe-b038-3aca2a6169cf/ MASSIVE BATTLE stream]): "This is a dark Ma Li insight — dark Marxism, not the stupid shit you hear about. [[Marxism]] not only has nothing wrong with inequality, it affirms the necessity of inequality."
==Dark Ma Lie on inequality==


Marx went over this in [[Critique of the Gotha Program]] section 1, describing a communist society, where inequality results from one man supplying labor at a higher quality or duration than another.
"This is a dark Ma Li insight — dark Marxism, not the stupid shit you hear about. [[Marxism]] not only has nothing wrong with inequality, it affirms the necessity of inequality."<ref>[https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/fac9a5c8-7ef1-4dfe-b038-3aca2a6169cf/ MASSIVE BATTLE stream]</ref> Marx went over this in [[Critique of the Gotha Program]] section 1, describing a communist society, where inequality results from one man supplying labor at a higher quality or duration than another.


=== Relation to Infrawoke ===
=== Relation to Infrawoke ===
Haz is explicit: "[[Infrawoke]] is the same thing as Dark Mali" ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/007a6ff2-3861-4c00-af25-e5aff3e9d04c/ INFRAWOKE stream]). Both name the turn toward moral-civilizational content: "moral clarity, alignment with cosmos, a [[Confucian]] morality, a [[Shia]] morality, a [[Zoroastrian]] morality... a morality that has substance, not just an empty sense of superiority of the self."
"[[Infrawoke]] is the same thing as Dark Mali" ([https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/kick/infrared/007a6ff2-3861-4c00-af25-e5aff3e9d04c/ INFRAWOKE stream]). Both name the turn toward moral-civilizational content: "moral clarity, alignment with cosmos, a [[Confucian]] morality, a [[Shia]] morality, a [[Zoroastrian]] morality... a morality that has substance, not just an empty sense of superiority of the self."


== See also ==
== See also ==
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Latest revision as of 17:30, 29 August 2026

Dark Ma Lie (dark Marxism-Leninism) is Haz's name for Infrared's mature self-understanding: post-ideological Marxism-Leninism, oriented by cosmos and moral substance rather than ideological formula.

马列 Ma Lie (pronounced maa lyeh) means Marx-Lenin in Chinese, as in 马列主义 Ma Lie Zhuyi "Marxism-Leninism". Mali is a mispronunciation/misspelling.

From the ICE UPRISING stream:

"Infrared's special articulation... is a lineage which I recently have articulated and like to call dark Ma Lie — dark Marxism. To explain what dark Marxism is: it is a post-ideological understanding of Marxism-Leninism... The problem of 20th century Marxism-Leninism, in both Stalin's Soviet Union and Mao's China, was that it was too ideological."

Connections in streams

Dark Ma Lie on inequality

"This is a dark Ma Li insight — dark Marxism, not the stupid shit you hear about. Marxism not only has nothing wrong with inequality, it affirms the necessity of inequality."[1] Marx went over this in Critique of the Gotha Program section 1, describing a communist society, where inequality results from one man supplying labor at a higher quality or duration than another.

Relation to Infrawoke

"Infrawoke is the same thing as Dark Mali" (INFRAWOKE stream). Both name the turn toward moral-civilizational content: "moral clarity, alignment with cosmos, a Confucian morality, a Shia morality, a Zoroastrian morality... a morality that has substance, not just an empty sense of superiority of the self."

See also

References