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'''Debating Leftists on 'Organizing'''' is an Infrared live stream from May 27, 2023.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/live/fwSuS5_ZjXE?feature=share https://www.youtube.com/live/fwSuS5_ZjXE]</ref>
'''Debating Leftists on 'Organizing'''' is an Infrared live stream from May 27, 2022.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/live/fwSuS5_ZjXE?feature=share https://www.youtube.com/live/fwSuS5_ZjXE]</ref>


== Outline ==
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** The issue is the application of liberalism to culture  
** The issue is the application of liberalism to culture  
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=2430s 40:30] - Twitter Space Start
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=2430s 40:30] - Twitter Space Start
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=2760s 46:00] - First caller - dude brings up labor organizing
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=2760s 46:00] - 1st caller
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=3080s 51:20] - Second caller - "american patriot" joins in. skeptical of the strategy
** dude brings up labor organizing, doesn't argue against media strategy
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=3980s 1:06:20] - Third caller - guy trying to make the case of starting with a big tent third party coalition without explicitly calling ourselves communists
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=3080s 51:20] - 2nd caller - "American patriot" joins in with his British (?) accent?
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=5005s 1:23:25] - Fourth caller - "Science, comics, video games" nerd talks about organizing the workplace
** DSA "organizers" attract all weirdos (Chaz, Connolly House), not a single normal person
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=5200s 1:26:40] - Fifth caller - Chinese diaspora kid with anime profile pic that is stupid, ignorant, smug, and hateful. Thinks online media can't affect political change. Moralizes about being a wage slave.
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=3980s 1:06:20] - 3rd caller - guy trying to make the case of starting with a big tent third party coalition without explicitly calling ourselves communists
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=9390s 2:36:30] - Sixth caller - Another smug dumbfuck anime profile pic
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=5005s 1:23:25] - 4th caller - "Science, comics, video games" nerd talks about organizing the workplace
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=9620s 2:40:20] - Seventh caller - Another smug stupid disgusting kid
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=5200s 1:26:40] - 5th caller - Chinese diaspora kid with anime profile pic that is stupid, ignorant, smug, and hateful. Thinks online media can't affect political change. Moralizes about being a wage slave.
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=10560s 2:56:00] - Eighth caller - Less hateful older dude who does "organizing" (ie charity). Gets defensive when questioned about his effectiveness.
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=9390s 2:36:30] - 6th caller - Another smug dumbfuck anime profile pic
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=9620s 2:40:20] - 7th caller - Another smug stupid disgusting kid
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=10560s 2:56:00] - 8th caller - Less hateful older dude who does "organizing" (ie charity). Gets defensive when questioned about his effectiveness.
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=12960s 3:36:00] - Final caller - Chill chat with Q Anthony
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=12960s 3:36:00] - Final caller - Chill chat with Q Anthony
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=17820s 4:57:00] - Wrap up
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSuS5_ZjXE&t=17820s 4:57:00] - Wrap up

Latest revision as of 22:36, 2 April 2023

Debating Leftists on 'Organizing' is an Infrared live stream from May 27, 2022.[1]

Outline[edit | edit source]

These were kindly contributed as a YouTube comment by Madao.[2]

  • 7:38 - start
  • 14:12 - feminism / radfems
  • 21:15 - mentioning sondsol, Kevin Castley[3]
  • 28:30 - back to feminism / radfems
    • The issue is the application of liberalism to culture
  • 40:30 - Twitter Space Start
  • 46:00 - 1st caller
    • dude brings up labor organizing, doesn't argue against media strategy
  • 51:20 - 2nd caller - "American patriot" joins in with his British (?) accent?
    • DSA "organizers" attract all weirdos (Chaz, Connolly House), not a single normal person
  • 1:06:20 - 3rd caller - guy trying to make the case of starting with a big tent third party coalition without explicitly calling ourselves communists
  • 1:23:25 - 4th caller - "Science, comics, video games" nerd talks about organizing the workplace
  • 1:26:40 - 5th caller - Chinese diaspora kid with anime profile pic that is stupid, ignorant, smug, and hateful. Thinks online media can't affect political change. Moralizes about being a wage slave.
  • 2:36:30 - 6th caller - Another smug dumbfuck anime profile pic
  • 2:40:20 - 7th caller - Another smug stupid disgusting kid
  • 2:56:00 - 8th caller - Less hateful older dude who does "organizing" (ie charity). Gets defensive when questioned about his effectiveness.
  • 3:36:00 - Final caller - Chill chat with Q Anthony
  • 4:57:00 - Wrap up

References[edit | edit source]

  1. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/live/fwSuS5_ZjXE
  2. ↑ Madao on YouTube
  3. ↑ https://linktr.ee/KevinCastley
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