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[[File:Image.png|thumb|Plato points upward]]
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Plato is the father of western Philosophy. For Haz, philosophy starts with Plato and ends with [[Hegel]].<ref>https://youtu.be/pOy9LvGizag?t=1827</ref> What both men share is an absolute courage of thought: the idea that ''nothing matters but philosophy''. At the same time, both avoid the temptation (of all idealism) to establish some established form, some achieved totality (Baconian Idola, or Kantian hypostasis) in which the restlessness of thought could submerge itself, and come to rest. It is in this sense that these two are the philosophical-ideal forefathers of [[Communism]], of the "real movement which sublates the present state of things."  
Plato is the father of western Philosophy. For Haz, philosophy starts with Plato and ends with [[Hegel]].<ref>https://youtu.be/pOy9LvGizag?t=1827</ref> What both men share is an absolute courage of thought: the idea that ''nothing matters but philosophy''. At the same time, both avoid the temptation (of all idealism) to establish some established form, some achieved totality in which the restlessness of thought could submerge itself, (die,) and come to rest. It is this sense that these two are the the philosophical-ideal forefathers of [[Communism]], of the "real movement which sublates the present state of things."  


French Communist Alain Badiou is famous for claiming Plato as the first Communist, and although they each have critiques of him, [[Slavoj Žižek]] and [[Reza Negarestani]] both agree with Badiou on this. Of this connection, Haz has said:  <blockquote>We as [Platonic] philosophers somehow resign ourselves to the openness of the fact that the truth we discover in heaven is the same truth being disclosed to us from earth. We make finally the connection between the universal truth of philosophy and the reality of Humanity. That was how Marx discovers the proletariat …remember what [[Karl Marx|Marx]] called the proletariat: ‘the ingenious soil of the people’.<ref>https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/infrared/lgeuzbk_y3s/<nowiki/>Timestamp: 2:46:21</ref> </blockquote>
French Communist Alain Badiou is famous for claiming Plato as the first Communist, and although they each have critiques of him, [[Slavoj Žižek]] and [[Reza Negarestani]] both agree with Badiou on this. Of this connection, Haz has said:  <blockquote>We as [Platonic] philosophers somehow resign ourselves to the openness of the fact that the truth we discover in heaven is the same truth being disclosed to us from earth. We make finally the connection between the universal truth of philosophy and the reality of Humanity. That was how Marx discovers the proletariat …remember what [[Karl Marx|Marx]] called the proletariat: ‘the ingenious soil of the people’.<ref>https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/infrared/lgeuzbk_y3s/<nowiki/>Timestamp: 2:46:21</ref> </blockquote>
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