Editing Buddhism (section)

=== Haz on Buddhism and related Eastern religions ===
Dharma is actually in opposition to Greek philosophy- Plato, Aristotle and so on, the real tension is between dharma and Greek logos. Western Buddhism and most translations of Buddhism is satanic as Dharma is propped in opposition to Abrahamic religion. Historically, Dharma, when it was not in contact with the Abrahamic religions, it just had agnosticism, it's not that it was specifically against Abrahamic religion but that it's not concerned with that sphere of reality. That sphere of reality is usually monopolized by the state. What happens in China with Confucianism which is dealing with the question of morality and aesthetic of the moral will and so on. This is why Confucianism actually is kind of similar today with Abrahamic religions.  Chinese societies have been secular, not secular in the modern sense, it was obviously very spiritual as it is intertwined with Confucianism and Buddhism and Taoism but it had a radically different relationship to religion than the monotheistic abrahamic religions and even the Dharmaic religions that were flourishing in the south. This way of relating to spirituality and religion are done through the concrete bonds of civil society and states. For example the rights of worship and ritual were just integrated into the totality of the state historically in China like the way in which people relate to the religion, express their religiosity is through the form of the state. Religion no longer becomes an autonomous form of effectual personal belief, it's directly expressed in the way in which you're relating as an individual to your civil society - it's woven into the fabric of civil society in the state. you're not going to have missionaries of the Chinese religion travel to other countries, it's just china, it's all through China, the relationship to religion is entirely different.  <ref>https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/infrared/182k1xmitpo/</ref> <ref>https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/infrared-vods/wtzxbsgcudo/</ref> 

On the question of paganism Haz says that any real tradition is not pagan. So, Zoroastrianism is not pagan and neither Hinduism nor Buddhism is pagan. Paganism is a state of ignorance - the only people who are initiated into paganism are the elites. It is never an openly avowed popular religion it's always a secret and selected elites whether it be the philosophers or be they something else who are initiated into paganism. But paganism is ignorance whereas Hinduism and Buddhism are scholarly traditions. This is a difference which one should keep in mind.<ref>https://infrared-transcripts.pages.dev/en/youtube/infrared/wizemhxoz58/</ref>